whereas obama at some times look a bit bewildered. i wanted to see a really good debate. obama was very passive. how do we move forward? this raises the bar for romney and for obama. so i think our next debate is going to be a little more livelier, jon. jon: cory, even big obama supporters like bill maher, bill maher tweeted out during the debate that it looks like president obama doesn't even realize he is showing up here for a job interview. >> well, jon, there is no question about it that mitt romney did a good job of exceeding dramatically low expectations. definitely won the expectations game, right. jon: if he won the debate? that is more than exceeding low expectations, isn't it? >> i think so. >> but here's the point, the point is at end of the day debates about specifics. this was very substantive debate last night. even the president at the end thought it was a very good conversation but i think his strongest point throughout the night when he pointed out, you know, the governor romney's ideas apparently are too good to communicate to the american people. he wan